The Disruption Lab

Why high-growth entrepreneurship is a different kind of economic infrastructure — and why most regions don’t have a strategy for it.
I recently published an essay arguing that every startup is a headquarters. The data behind that claim is compelling — young firms create virtually all net new jobs, innovation-economy wages run double the national median, and every one of those jobs generates five more in the surrounding community. But data doesn’t tell you what the distinction between high-growth and small business entrepreneurship actually feels like from inside an ecosystem. This episode goes deeper into the pattern I keep seeing: we talk about entrepreneurship as one thing, fund it as one thing, and measure it as one thing. It isn’t. And until we design for the difference, we’ll keep underbuilding the part that drives regional economies.

Across agriculture, mining, and construction, billion-dollar supply chains still run on a phone call and a guess. Someone walks outside, eyeballs a pile of feed, and tells the truck dispatcher what they think is left. They're wrong by 30 to 50 percent — and that error ripples into spoiled inventory, empty feedlots, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in losses.
Warren Wang and his co-founder Cole built Rebulk to fix that. Using lidar, computer vision, and edge-connected hardware, they're giving operators real-time inventory visibility for bulk materials that have never fit inside a barcode or a box. Their first proof of concept? Packing peanuts from Office Depot dumped on the ground.
In this episode, host Kevin McGinnis sits down with Warren to trace the arc from a failed social media transcription startup to a Y Combinator-backed company with Cargill as a pilot customer — all while raising their pre-seed entirely from Kansas City investors. Warren opens up about the identity crisis that nearly derailed the pivot, what it took to build trust inside a tech-skeptical industry, and why he and Cole chose to come back to the Midwest instead of staying in San Francisco.
Recorded on the same day Warren became a U.S. citizen, this conversation is about more than supply chain software. It's about conviction, belonging, and building something generational.

Travis Fitzwater spent 12 years in the Missouri legislature building the policy infrastructure behind the state's innovation economy — the Right to Start Act, the Office of Entrepreneurship, STEM workforce mandates. Then, instead of running for reelection, he walked away from the chamber to lead the Missouri Technology Corporation, the state-backed venture fund he once helped govern from a board seat.
In this live taping of The Disruption Lab, host Kevin McGinnis sits down with Fitzwater to unpack the tension between building systems from the outside and operating them from the inside. They explore why entrepreneurship remains one of the most bipartisan policy issues in the country yet still struggles to compete for attention against corporate recruitment incentives and tax credit packages. Fitzwater talks honestly about what it means to invest taxpayer dollars in startups, why MTC's thesis looks different from a traditional VC, and how a $95 million federal infusion creates both opportunity and urgency for long-term sustainability.
The conversation also gets personal — from a five-way primary where every ally disappeared, to the Friday pizza nights that keep his family grounded, to a leadership philosophy rooted in service over self. Whether you're a founder navigating the ecosystem, a policymaker thinking about economic development, or someone trying to understand how innovation actually gets funded in middle America, this one's worth your time.

What does it take to lead a community that's spent decades being treated like a stepchild?
In this episode of The Disruption Lab, host Kevin McGinnis sits down with Mayor Christal Watson — the first Black woman to lead Kansas City, Kansas and Wyandotte County — for a candid conversation about trust, resilience, and the quiet work of rebuilding institutions from the inside.
Recorded in front of a live studio audience, Mayor Watson opens up about inheriting a city wrestling with fractured trust and an "imposter syndrome" she's determined to dismantle. She shares the unfiltered reality of walking into the job mid-Chiefs stadium negotiation with no playbook, why she believes small business is infrastructure, and how outdated technology is quietly holding local government back.
From faith and family to data-driven decisions and regionalism, Mayor Watson brings an energy and honesty that cuts through political performance — and a rare look at what it takes to change culture inside a system built to resist it.

Most people who see a broken food system either accept it or complain about it. Max Kaniger did something different — he walked into 70 corner stores and got told no by every single one before finding a partner willing to take a chance on fresh produce.
Today, Kanbe's Markets operates in 125 locations across the Kansas City metro, covers 260 square miles, and rescued 1.7 million pounds of food last year. And the model wasn't built on new infrastructure — it was built on trust, existing ecosystems, and a Google Sheet that eventually hit 700,000 lines before it broke.
In this episode, host Kevin McGinnis sits down with Max to unpack what happens when federal safety nets disappear overnight, why cities keep getting food access wrong, and how a consignment model designed to eliminate risk for store owners created something most grocery chains never could — real community buy-in. They go deep on the operational complexity behind a four-tier produce sorting system, the personal cost of walking away from a seven-figure contract, and why food as medicine might be the next wave — if nonprofits can move fast enough to outrun the for-profit players circling the space.
This is a conversation about systems, survival, and what it actually takes to feed people.

What if everything you think you know about homelessness is wrong?
Forty to fifty percent of people experiencing homelessness in America are employed. They're working. They're contributing. And they still can't afford a place to live. That single fact dismantles most of the narratives we tell ourselves about who this crisis affects — and who's responsible for solving it.
Jarrod Sanderson is the Executive Director of The Way Home, a Kansas City-based organization working at the connective layer between developers, funders, city systems, and community — not to run programs, but to redesign the conditions that keep affordable housing stuck in small-ball thinking.
 
In this episode, Jarrod challenges the framing that has quietly defined this issue for decades: that affordable housing is a charitable cause. His argument is more urgent and more disruptive — it's economic infrastructure. And until we treat it that way, the people who actually make cities function — teachers, nurses, city workers, first responders — will keep getting priced out of the places they serve.
This is a conversation about systems, capital, coordination, and what it actually takes to build a city that works for everyone — not just the people who can already afford it.

Everyone assumes that underinvested communities, early-stage ecosystems, and emerging innovation hubs need more money. More grants. More venture. More philanthropic dollars. But the evidence from 50+ conversations on this show tells a different story.
The communities and companies that are actually building durable growth aren’t the ones that raised the most capital. They’re the ones where the capital was designed — with the right governance, the right accountability, and the right timeline.

Jo Blaq left Kansas City because the infrastructure for a music career didn't exist. He went to LA, built one anyway — Grammy nominations, Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber, private jets — and then came back. Now he's building what he calls ground zero for creatives, a multimedia creative hub in the Crossroads designed to change the equation: world-class tools, real career pathways, and a community built to keep Kansas City's talent home instead of exporting it. This is creative infrastructure as economic development — and Jo believes Kansas City is ready.https://www.distrkct.com/home
 

After 50+ conversations on The Disruption Lab, one pattern keeps surfacing: the thing that slows down innovation is almost never the technology. It’s the invisible friction — trust gaps, procurement processes, cultural resistance, systems not designed to absorb change at the speed it arrives. In this solo episode, Kevin McGinnis connects threads across the show’s catalog — from clinical trials to community development to AI-driven workforce transformation — and names the structural problem nobody wants to talk about. We don’t have an innovation shortage. We have an absorption problem.

The U.S. offshored its critical minerals processing decades ago. Now 95% of the world's nickel runs through China — regardless of where it comes out of the ground. Jamie Andes and William Highsmith from Critical Materials Crossroads break down what that dependency actually means, why Kansas City has the infrastructure and history to lead the reshoring effort, and what a $160 million NSF Engines grant could catalyze for a region sitting on $3-4 billion in economic potential. This is supply chain as national security — and the clock is running.